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PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« on: February 19, 2016, 11:14:26 AM »
Hola todos,
I've done a search and haven't come up with what I thought would have been a plethora of advice and tips. If I've missed it or posted in the wrong department, lo siento.

We live in Anglesey and have two well behaved spaniels.

I'm sure you can forecast every single question we have as first time winter caravaners.

Anyone who does the trip please could you pile as much advice on me as possible.

best regards all,

Peter

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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 09:01:48 AM »
Hi Peter,

Sorry you don't seem to have had any replies yet. It might be better to ask some specific questions and start a debate.

When are you coming over?

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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 03:39:15 PM »
Hola todos,
I've done a search and haven't come up with what I thought would have been a plethora of advice and tips. If I've missed it or posted in the wrong department, lo siento.

We live in Anglesey and have two well behaved spaniels.

I'm sure you can forecast every single question we have as first time winter caravaners.

Anyone who does the trip please could you pile as much advice on me as possible.

best regards all,




Peter


Hi Peter,

One thing is for sure you will love it at Camping Los Gallardos.

We spent 5 or 6 years very happy years over-wintering on the campsite.

We chose, like many others,  to leave our caravan & awning set up permanently on site...kitted out the awning with pavers..put sofas..TV..dining table in it...plus a kitchen area at one end with cooker..F/F etc....and simply used our caravan as a bedroom/changing area....home from home really.
You also have the option of leaving your caravan in storage & then having it sited for your stays...have a look on the website regards the 6 + 6 option.

I can't offer any advice regards towing to & from the UK & the Campsite as we never did it...but plenty do, so hopefully you will get some responses from other folk.

The campsite is very friendly & most folk are happy to help with almost anything....we certainly needed help when we first arrived & were very grateful for all the help we received.
There are excellent facilities on site....you won't be disappointed.

The general area around Los Gallardos is fabulous...unspoilt...and un-comercialised to a good extent....be it coastal/beach or in-land villages/towns...we loved the area.

If you have any more specific questions please ask & if I can I will offer my thoughts/opinions.

But give it a try.....you'll certainly return again, once you do.

Adios,

Kev   8)

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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 07:42:18 PM »
Hola superpete,

I can second Kev's information, you will find this a friendly site who's motto is 'Fun in the Sun'

Regarding your trip to here, you could save a bit of money doing the long drive from Calaise but for peace of mind you would be better taking the ferry from Portsmouth to either Bilbeo or Santander Spain avoiding the whole of France.

Motorhomes can park almost anywhere en route overnight but not so with caravans. It will take you almost 2 days towing a caravan.
From memory its about 690 kilometers as apposed to the Calaise route being twice as far.

Let me know before setting off and I will give you some tips for your journey.

Pete




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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 11:35:49 AM »
Well, you guys have got the ball rolling for me. Thanks. The reason I didn't ask a specific question is that I didn't know where to start.

We tour around UK out of season and site our van over the "summer" season. What I'd like to try is to spend the milder winter months along with you.

You've picked up on a couple of my concerns, namely, drive through France vs. the ferry to bilbao. I gather there are dog friendly cabins. Our towing vehicle is lpg dual fuel so the tunnel is immediately ruled out. Then, there's the question of LPG service stations through France and Spain. Has anyone used the services of the caravanning clubs to plan routes and way stops ? Is there such a thing as a "dummies guide to caravanning from the UK to southern Spain" that you know of ? If I elect to drive through France, which is the most painless ferry route ?

I'm happy towing but keen not to get involved with drive-on-the-right-gymnastics through major towns and cities before I've got my wings.

I would definately rule out leaving my van in storage for the summer months so, when does the silly season start and end site-wise and traffic-wise ?

I've no doubt judging from the response I've had thus far that yours is the site I'll head for so, I'd be looking to turn up, say, during November and stay till, say, end of Frebruary depending on the advice I get here.

I've started burbling ans rambling so you can see why I didn't try to post all my questions at once.

Thanks for the welcome.

Very best regards.

Peter

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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 02:02:44 PM »
Hi Peter,

We used to do 6 months Early October to end of March.....loved it.

A lot of the other snowbirds start turning up from Octoberish & stay till anything from March to May...so take your pick.
Some return home (flight) for Christmas/New Year & then fly back out, but we never, we used to do the full 6 months or so...Christmas dinner in the sun..with friends & fellow campers...usually eaten outside !!

New Years eve in the Miraflores restaurant on site & then a dance thru till the early hours.

The weather is a micro-climate down in Almeria & around the Mojacar region...sunniest place in Europe...and just perfect for over wintering.

A tip you may find useful ( we certainly did )...is when you arrive at the site & look for a pitch..try & secure one on the right hand side of the streets....that being the right hand side as you face them from the entrance gates end of the site.
It's simply that they get the sun all day (which is nice in the winter as the sun comes up & warms your caravan/awning earlier then on the other side of the street ). You'll be surprised at just how much of a difference it actually makes.

Not sure how you will get on with re-filling your (UK ? ) gas bottles, but the ones in Spain are either Repsol or Cespa & use a European type clip on regulator.

In Spain you need a contract to buy your first Repsol/Cepsa gas bottle...but we got our original (empty) bottle from a fellow camper on site, so avoided all the paperwork & cost...then simply exchanged it for a full one. 

With us being based there we just had Repsol bottles which were changed when empty for full ones, delivered by the Repsol gas man who comes on site fortnightly...under 20 euros for a circa 15kg size...or you can exchange them at various places..such as some supermarkets or hardware stores...or simply at a repsol filling station.

Cespa are much lighter bottles but you have to go to a Cepsa filling station to exchange them.

Hopefully someone will post a reply who knows how it works for those folks driving over with their vans for a winter stay with regards UK gas bottles ?

I'm sure if you e mail the office they will advise further...

I'll leave it at that for now & stop rambling on !!

Adios,

Kev    8)

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 05:13:40 PM »
Hi Peter,

As a first timer towing a caravan in Europe you would be advised to avoid France. There are four main routes south through France, and all of them lead to Spain.
 However they all include long stretches of toll motorway, but three out of four also include long sections of road that are not toll roads.
While it is of course possible to find a route south through France from Calais to the Spanish border avoiding all tolls, this is generally a pointless exercise except for very slow-moving vehicles, as it would involve hundreds of kilometres on slow roads with numerous towns and villages to negotiate.
I would get the ferry direct to Bilbao or Santander. Keeping her indoors happy is very important and negotiating the french route has tested many happy relationships.

Not sure how many filling stations sell LPG  but as diesel is much cheaper in Spain you could keep your LPG tank full for emergencies.

When friends here do the Spanish route with a caravan they often stop for a night behind a filling station, usually where HGVs park up. The Spanish are very accommodating and never tell you you to move on and unlike UK never charge you for parking the night.
Filling stations very often have restaurants or at least a cafe with licenced bar. Many also have shower facilities for travellers also free.

You say you would be coming in November! make sure you don't come too late in the winter season like December as it can snow badly across central and Northern spain. We have done that route many times with a motorhome and its a magic experience after leaving the cold weather of Britain, heading due south to find its gradually getting warmer as the miles roll by.

We have done all routes over the years, the last one was through the tunnel. An easy and silly mistake took us through Paris where the traffic was horrendous then the long journey across France and it rained all the way to the Spanish border. Never again we said.

You will love Spain, we all do.

Peter K





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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 05:19:56 PM »
PS: We don't have a silly season here, there is no mad rush to arrive or leave.

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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 12:31:07 AM »
Hi, re the lpg vehicle. Be aware that there are no LPG facilities within 50 miles of the site. Unless some have opened within the last year. Good luck with the journey. I drove down through France to save money.
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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 03:40:58 PM »
L.p.g in Vera


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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2016, 07:18:17 PM »
Depends what you mean by lpg station. You can only buy the bottles here, you can't refill a tank

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2016, 10:15:17 AM »
Righty oh, all. You've certainly gone to some trouble to help me. I've read the letters off the posts gleening the host of tips freely given.
I'm resolved to take the ferry to Bilbao and tow down Spain. I'll do some more homework on waystays. Is there a"one size fits all" sequence of stops that people such as myself use. Bear in mind I won't be able to park on a tanner. How many stops is the recommended norm?
I fear I've thrown a degree of confusion in as regards the LPG thing. My motor is a petrol engined vehicle that has an LPG conversion. It'll run on either petrol or LPG. As LPG is half the price of petrol and (with the wife's idea of weight economy- my motor's towing capacity is three and a half tonnes, she thinks that's the target weight- we do about one mpg) obviously, that's a considerable factor when planning a journey. There are sites locating the LPG stations but, wich would be the main drag of choice from Bilbao/Santander(any preference between those two ports?)
I haven't, as yet, done an exhaustive scan of your website but I guess there'll be a map of the plots somewhere. Can a plot be booked in advance, if so, any recommendations bearing in mind the sunny side of the street and late homecomers in the early hours.
It seems that more months spent, the better. I hear what you'resaying about the snows. Our seasonalsite closes at the end of October and we tour around a bit just before so I gues I'll be heading for erly November and, Judging from what it's like here at the moment, miss the Easter panic either before or after.

I can't thank you people enough. Just a matter of working out the cash, dogs' passports and timing.

Very best regards

Peter.

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2016, 01:32:21 PM »
Hi Pete,

Regards booking a pitch...yes you should be able to pre-book...best bet is either ring or e mail (contact details on main website) & explain what your preferences are...and I've no doubt they will be met where possible.
Gareth (site manager) is always very, very helpful...as are the Jackson family who own the site.

The best pitches are on the sunny side of the streets for winter stays...regards late home-comers in the early hours....well the site has a policy of "minimum noise" after midnight & as I recall...it was usually adhered to by the vast majority of campers.

I guess the "quieter" end of the streets would be those furthest away from the Miraflores restaurant/bar/pool/function room area...

I would think the choice of pitch will also depend on the size of your caravan...again I'm sure Gareth will be able to advise.

There's some good photos on the website that will give you a "feel" for the layout of the site...and possibly more on the campsites facebook page ( not sure as we personally don't use facebook ).

There are basically 4 or 5 longish streets...plus a cul-de-sac style area on the site, available to folk to put caravans/camper vans on.

There are also permanent static mobile homes (casas) on the campsite itself & also on a seperate gated park, just behind the bowling green. 
 
Adios

Kev   8)

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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2016, 10:32:41 AM »
Okey Dokey, campers. Just to prove I haven't totally wasted the time of all the generous contributors with gold dust of advice....I'm on the verge of booking. I've fired a note off to the official channel.
We're not ready to go autumn to spring yet, so, I'm gonna go for February to April ish to see how we get on. I'm pretty well resolved to go from Anglesey where we live to Plymouth and then to Santander with a stop on the way down to you.
If anyone can see anything wrong with that I'd be more than appreciative. I suppose we could come mid January to before Easter if the Easter period is a problem. The earliest I can get my van serviced to preserve the guarentee is 6th. January.
Thanks for all your help up to now. Best regards. Peter

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Re: PROSPECTIVE neighbour
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2016, 06:02:49 PM »
I believe you can now fill lpg tanks in many places in spain including vera